Steve kraut - Peewee muldoons, Brentwood auto plaza, Tracy chevy

The Guy Who Really Knows wrote:

If what you're saying about Ken being killed on Saturday night, I am truly sorry. I knew Ken and I wouldn't wish that on him or anyone else.
After I read your story, I checked police logs for the CHP, Sheriff and Brentwood PD and I find no story pertaining to Ken Hoctor anywhere. Where did you read this story?

I didnt read the story anywhere. Besides being froends with Ken we have mutual friends. He was driving a Viper apparently had been drinking and was in a collision with another car.

you morons need to get your facts right.

First off it wasnt ken hocter in the viper it was c0ckbite Brian Nolte who was drunk and on coke according to the police .He is the idiot who bought the fatmans boat, he was racing a camaro on city streets, hit the bridge at rosegate in excess of 100mph on balfour and went airborne took out several trees and a sign the shot across the road hit the center divide and flip 2-3 times. his legs were around his head and they wasted a lifeflight on his dumb @ss. What a waste of perfectly good resource on this puke of a life. Street racing like a teenager when he's in his 40's. Real smart street race at all but especially when people could be out with there family or kids. Just goes to show how stupid you can be even if you can buy the car you shouldnt have it. What do you think the insurance company will do when they hear the car is totaled due to a street race.

SHM wrote:

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I didnt read the story anywhere. Besides being froends with Ken we have mutual friends. He was driving a Viper apparently had been drinking and was in a collision with another car.

I gotta tell you bud, you look like a complete idiot spreading a story about a guy getting killed when you don't have a clue what you're talking about. If you're such close friends, why would you post this crap without making sure you were corect.

just another wana be idot.

Happened in my backyard. The accident desciption sounds right.
Glad my kids, friends, neighbors or loved ones werent next to this idiot...alot of families on the road after seeing Santa.
Zero remorse. Happy with the fact he only took his life.

still curious why I have not been able to find any article about this accident in the paper or online.

Can someone here point me to where I can find the story?

SHM wrote:

I knew Steve and his ways. Ive sat back and read everyones postings and everything you have heard about him is true. Ive seen it. I wasnt envolved in it at all but Ive seen his hinky ways he does business.
Now about Ken, I was a very good friend of his for a very long time. I stayed out of his personal money business but I always couldnt add up on my fingers and toes how and where the amount of money was coming from. So I stopped trying.
I want to let everyone one know that Ken was killed in a car accident on Balfour and Griffith on Saturday night the 22nd. No matter what he did or what he was involved in, we are not to judge him he is being judged by the all mighty right now. RIP. God rest his soul.
So lets get back to Steve Bashing its so much more fun.:)

i just called dublin toyota and talk too ken as a customer sounds good for a dead guy? why dont you step in front of a truck and stop tellin story you know nothin about.this was so not cool even if it was about p.o.s like ken

The Guy Who Really Knows wrote:

still curious why I have not been able to find any article about this accident in the paper or online.
Can someone here point me to where I can find the story?

thought you knew everything....hm

wana be wrote:

<quoted text>thought you knew everything....hm

Wow, there was a snappy post.. The difference between you and me is, I don't post something unless I know it's true. I still don't know if the accident is real or not, because I have not been able to find anything in the paper about it.
That is why I call myself the "Guy Who Really Knows". I guess if we all called ourselves something that was true, you could change your name to "The Guy Who Posts Stupid Crap"

red viper, white stripes, 100mph in residential neighborhood, crashing all over the place= TRUE

self indulged, idiot driver, cares about no-one except himself = TRUE

should crawl under a rock and not come out = TRUE

will probally do again because his brain is about the size on a nugget of SHIT =TRUE

booze, coke, who it was, dead, dying, alive = dont give a shit

The Guy Who Really Knows wrote:

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Wow, there was a snappy post.. The difference between you and me is, I don't post something unless I know it's true. I still don't know if the accident is real or not, because I have not been able to find anything in the paper about it.
That is why I call myself the "Guy Who Really Knows". I guess if we all called ourselves something that was true, you could change your name to "The Guy Who Posts Stupid Crap"

you are nobody and stop with the know it all, it did happen and sad for his kids and family.

Well, I don't even know where to start. But I know alittle and alot. I worked for Pee Wee's for quit a few years and let me tell you, I knew it was all over as soon as they took over. They ousted out the day crowd to start out. All they cared about was the Friday and Saturday night crowd. It was no longer a "family restaraunt". No it was a Kiddy Playground. They thought that was where the money was at. HUH? No, that's where the trouble started. But, they kept it up for awhile and it was good. But, things started going bad then worse. They never did get it. They still don't. That makes me SMILE and laugh. I believe they are and will get what's coming to them. They hurt my family in so many ways. But they didn't get me like they thought they were going to. Actually I came out ahead. I'm so thankful they fired me, cause it just backfired at them. You think Kathy is such a sweetheart? I can tell you firsthand she's a fake ass bitch. She'll smile in your face but, WATCH YOUR BACK. Oh ya she's good! And for Steve he's just a cold COLD COLD hearted MOFO! OH! Lets not forget the other owner Mr Pete Petrovich....He's just plain ass BiPolar. If you have ever been around him for very long, you would know that.

mr knows it all wrote:

<quoted text>you are nobody and stop with the know it all, it did happen and sad for his kids and family.

And why is it sad for them, if he is a complete and total moron(which i do believe he has proven)
then the best thing is if he would have been killed. at least it would be one less future problem, because we all know he will continue to be stupid.

So, I heard that Ken hoctor was not involved in the accident on Balfour. This came from a firefighter that was on the scene. Maybe he didn't recognize him? From reading this forum, it sounds like there were two cars involved in the racing part. Maybe Ken was driving the other vehicle.......?

Brentwoodian wrote:

So, I heard that Ken hoctor was not involved in the accident on Balfour. This came from a firefighter that was on the scene. Maybe he didn't recognize him? From reading this forum, it sounds like there were two cars involved in the racing part. Maybe Ken was driving the other vehicle.......?

no, dont think so,he doesn't live around here,he moved to san ramon.you guys really need to get your stories right.some people here should stop making up crap...whatever.

I've got to say....I've never seen anything like this forum. I was trying to find out what happened on Balfour since there was no mention in either of the local papers on Friday, put a few words in the google search engine, and this came up........Out of control gossip! Wow.......Could write a soap opera with all the crap I've read here.........

Brentwoodian wrote:

I've got to say....I've never seen anything like this forum. I was trying to find out what happened on Balfour since there was no mention in either of the local papers on Friday, put a few words in the google search engine, and this came up........Out of control gossip! Wow.......Could write a soap opera with all the crap I've read here.........

no doubt,ck last weeks police log for the 22nd just says wreck at balfour and griffen,really hollywood needs these people for movie writers.to much time to waste.

you're right no doubt, but as has been stated befre, for some people this is the only recourse, and it does make some people feel better.

It's coming close to the 1 year anniversary now of when things all started to fall for these (or THIS) jokester. Let all of us remember because of his his fine business ethics, some families had to tell their kids there'd be no Christmas.

Happy Holidays to all

Two of the women making comments on this site are named Lynn and Tanya. Both of these women worked at Pee Wee's and ripped the place off.

Insulted wrote:

Two of the women making comments on this site are named Lynn and Tanya. Both of these women worked at Pee Wee's and ripped the place off.

Really? Say's Who?
That's a pretty ballsy post yo made, now, back it up with some facts.